Tom Ridge: to torture human nature

BBC NEWS | Americas | US 'should not rule out torture'

It is a matter of "when" not "if" according to Mr Ridge.

So anyone that thinks my liberalism is not patriotic is obviously not very familiar with the principles of America. We can't even agree on if torture is OK? Ok. we're running out of space for disagreement if we have no fact in common.

I was hoping "torture is bad" was something we could agree to agree on.